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Around how much do you think that would run?
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Just curious, but why not turbo charge it instead of supercharging it. From my research and talking with performance enthusiasts, I hear the turbo is the way to go. Its puts no stress on the engine when your not hitting that go pedal. Its better for the engine and the life of that engine. As long as you keep the boost within normal levels 5 to 8 psi one should get 200k out the engine with no issues. From my understanding the cars that are pushing 20 to 30 boost are blowing there stuff up. From my understanding the turbo is the way to go over the supercharger. The supercharger is taking power away to make power. Just curious on why not a turbo kit.
Its my understanding that even when the supercharger is not being used it still causes stress to the engine.
Its my understanding that even when the supercharger is not being used it still causes stress to the engine.
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1st reason is price and second reason is all centri superchargers are basically the same way and ALOT cheaper
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Centri superchargers are basically the same as turbo's????? When you speak of centri superchargers would the pro charger system be considered that type of supercharger. What boost level would you say be a completely safe level where damage would not be caused to the engine. I see that pro charger seems to set the boost at 8 psi for the 11 plus V6. Is that safe? How often does the supercharger snap the belt that's running it? Does the belt snap because the boost is set too high?
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No they arnt basically the same but they perform alot alike. What I mean is the power doesn't kick in until around 3-3500 rpm
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Anyone have details on this?
Planning on calling Dallas Mistang tomorrow to get details
The only thing "completely safe" in terms of boost is none at all.
You can take the mildest 500-ish hp blower kit, tune it for crap and blow the whole shebang up.
Ford incorporated design thought into the block in terms of strong main webs, forged crank, etc. with an eye to boost at some point by somebody but, the majority of the rotating assembly, i.e. rods and pistons are N/A built. This does not mean to me your 5.0 is "built for boost". The fact that when you buy a Coyote from FRPP, you can spec it for FI or for NA, clarifies my point. FI drops static comp to 9.5:1 to allow more boost and way more power, more safely.
Centri blowers are the easiest and safest way to add boost. Easy install, simple tuning, boost is ramped with load (like a turbo) and they can be really responsive if you're careful and select a right sized head unit and step-up ratio.
I've tried every power adder out there, many on the same car, over the last few decades. I found centri to give the most smiles per hour. Were I given to do this on this car, which I'm not at this point, that's what I'd do, in a heartbeat.
You can take the mildest 500-ish hp blower kit, tune it for crap and blow the whole shebang up.
Ford incorporated design thought into the block in terms of strong main webs, forged crank, etc. with an eye to boost at some point by somebody but, the majority of the rotating assembly, i.e. rods and pistons are N/A built. This does not mean to me your 5.0 is "built for boost". The fact that when you buy a Coyote from FRPP, you can spec it for FI or for NA, clarifies my point. FI drops static comp to 9.5:1 to allow more boost and way more power, more safely.
Centri blowers are the easiest and safest way to add boost. Easy install, simple tuning, boost is ramped with load (like a turbo) and they can be really responsive if you're careful and select a right sized head unit and step-up ratio.
I've tried every power adder out there, many on the same car, over the last few decades. I found centri to give the most smiles per hour. Were I given to do this on this car, which I'm not at this point, that's what I'd do, in a heartbeat.
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Would you do it without forged Internals or a rebuilt oil pump
That would be rolling the dice, wouldn't it?
Now, that said, could I pop a blower on there as is and if the worst happened, could I afford to fix it? Yeah, because I wouldn't have to pay for any labour, I'd just do it myself. Would I be happy being out thousands, my DD on jackstands and my 2012 car on its second engine? Nope. That's why I'm playing it cool with this car. Tires, traction aids and little things to enhance the experience, like shifter bracket/knob and axlebacks, that's pretty much where I'm at with this car now.
One of the hardest and most expensive lessons to learn in this hobby is when to say when and to know what you actually want. I needed alot of remedial help for those two, over the years.
Now, that said, could I pop a blower on there as is and if the worst happened, could I afford to fix it? Yeah, because I wouldn't have to pay for any labour, I'd just do it myself. Would I be happy being out thousands, my DD on jackstands and my 2012 car on its second engine? Nope. That's why I'm playing it cool with this car. Tires, traction aids and little things to enhance the experience, like shifter bracket/knob and axlebacks, that's pretty much where I'm at with this car now.
One of the hardest and most expensive lessons to learn in this hobby is when to say when and to know what you actually want. I needed alot of remedial help for those two, over the years.
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Ever heard te expression 'who pissed in your wheatie's this morning?' You, sir, pissed in my wheatie's this morning. Maybe just on O/R with x pipe and cat delete for me
No mean feat, at this distance:lol:
You can make pretty fun car without taking too much risk but, I think its important to understand the risks. I wouldn't be too worried with a well-cared for car + a low power blower kit, over the long haul.
Honestly, until pretty recently comparatively, I walked around with my fingers in my ears saying, "La la la, can't hear you" as far as the risks were concerned.
You can make pretty fun car without taking too much risk but, I think its important to understand the risks. I wouldn't be too worried with a well-cared for car + a low power blower kit, over the long haul.
Honestly, until pretty recently comparatively, I walked around with my fingers in my ears saying, "La la la, can't hear you" as far as the risks were concerned.
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Well, I appreciate the insight though
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