this guy I met was telling me how he was on eBay a month or two ago and he bid on the Mach 17x8 rims w/ tires already balanced and everything from AFS Wheels and he had won the bid. A couple days later they told him they were out of stock for the 17x8 but they'd instead give him 18x9 for no extra charge. So he paid for the 17x8 rims but instead got upgraded to the 18x9's. Sounds pretty nice, I looked around and found them if you guys wanna check them out. This is their store, some of the things they have don't have reserve prices on them so it's just opening bidding Just passing some information on.