Why did they drop the HP of the v6 and not increase it

 

I bet it's just a marketing move. It's the same engine. Maybe they are rating it at different revs. They can't have two engines making about the same numbers. Gives people an incentive to buy the turbo.

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Lol we lost 5 ponies. So dumb.

 

They're keeping the v6 around for the rental fleet I've heard, same motor I doubt it's been de-tuned just probably published numbers so the ecoboost looks more attractive.

 

Like i said 300hp -310 does not matter that's nowhere near a power horse.

310 is sorry. They should have done more than that

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They should have did the v6 at 350

Turbo 4 at 380-400

And the 5.0 at 450

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I mean.. you can't just make up numbers. Don't full bolt-on V6's get around 350 now? When it comes down to it we on this forum are not Ford's target demographic for the V6. Yeah those of us with sixers love them and know that it's a great engine for what it is, but the majority of Mustang drivers (all I'm saying is >50%, don't freak out V6 fans) are just regular people who like the sporty look, right? They're not taking it to the track and modding it.

This is the beginning of the end of the V6. I bet they're going to sell this mostly to rental fleets and hope that the general non-racing public will go after the EcoBoost rather than the V6. Give it a few years and the V6 will be phased out, therefore no point in trying to up the horsepower.

 

I guess the torque numbers would be more important than the HP numbers. Torque is what you feel.


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I imagine after a few years, likely during the next refresh, they will drop the 3.7 completely.

These numbers are a bit underwhelming to be honest.

The 2015 Mustang line up should be:

Base model - Turbo 4 - 310 hp / 320 tq - $23k - $28k

Mid Range - Turbo 6 - 365 hp / 350 tq - $26k - $34k

GT - V8 5.0 - 450+ hp / 400+ tq - $32k - $40k

Special model - V8 6.2L NA - 500+hp / 460+tq (for Boss/Mach 1/GT350 etc..) - $46k - $52k

High end - FI V8 - 700+ hp / 650+tq (Shelby or Cobra) - $58k - $70k

That would cover every kind of budget, while allowing everyone to get the Mustang they want. Five engines may seem like a lot but consider the current F150.. You have the 3.7, 5.0, Ecoboost 6, and 6.2. Just one more engine for a high end supercar level Mustang, which already exists (Trinity 5.8). The transmissions between the EB-4, 3.7, 5.0, 6.2 and EB-6 are all the same, just need the transmission calibrated for the autos and each engine, give the manuals the same transmission and adjust the final drive gears for each combination. It seems like a lot of work, but it really isn't.


If this new Mustang doesn't perform exceptionally well, which judging from the numbers it may not, GM's next Camaro is probably going to stomp a mud hole in these ponies' asses and kick it dry.

 

The lack of a V6 premium is to push those buyers to the turbo. The fate of the V6 will depend on sales, if the turbo doesn't really take off, then it'll stay. Also European sales will be a factor on engines.

The other factor we don't know is how it translates to RWHP. Don't forget it's a new drive train.


Chevy runs deep, don't step in Chevy.

 

Chevy and there new Camaro is going to be dragging alot off ass with the new mustang. Promise you that

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2015 the Mustang will have the edge

2016 the Camaro will release a next gen car faster (# wise) than the Mustang.

2017 the Mustang will be 2 years old and will be revamped just enough to beat the Camaro

See a trend at all? This is good for all of us guys....

 

F' Chevy bro ...



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I just had dinner with a group of friends, one of whom works for Ford in marketing. (I live in SE Michigan.) He says the V6 horsepower went down because they de-tuned it to up the fuel economy. He says the point of having both the EB4 and the V6 is to have an option for better fuel economy and lower emissions, especially for Europe where they get taxed based on carbon emissions, not on mpgs. He says the V6 is here to stay in the US. When I asked him aren't the V6 and EB4 competing for the same market, he said that the V6 attracts the crowd that wants to mod it, because it's easier to play with than the EB4.


So yeah, I was wrong on a couple hypotheses before. They aren't phasing out the V6. And they did de-tune it, it wasn't just a marketing trick. (Although the motivation is still marketing.)


By the way, this guy gets to lease a brand new Ford every 9 months. He's picking up his GT500 tomorrow. And he already ordered his fully-loaded triple yellow 2015 GT. My dad worked for Ford for 30 years before he retired in 2008, he had a similar deal, but I think it was 1 year, not 9 months. My first internship was at Ford in powertrain controls R&D, I worked on the diesel Land Rovers for Europe. They gave the A-plan even to interns, haha. It was a fun company to work for.

 

Ask him why they eliminated the V6 Premium.


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My understanding is that it is the Performance pkg, not the Premium pkg being deleted from the V6 options. The new packages are specifically tuned to work with each engine. I expect the V6 will still be about 50% of the market, and the other engines will attract different performance enthusiast types. It is almost impossible to gain any significant advantage over the competition, but I think Ford will be the winner for the next 2-3 years.

 

No, the V6 Premium is gone. It has been talked about for a while that it is going away, and if you go out to the 2015 configurator on Ford's site, you will see that it is not an option.


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The numbers I saw said 290 torque on the V6. Dyno numbers for 2011/12 showed in reality 308 hp and 288 torque. Marketing is all it is for sure. Personally I'd go V6 or V8 as both will last longer than the Turbo 4 and I tend to keep my cars 15 years.

 

There is still a lot of options not listed on the site. It may be that the Premium pkg will be in add ons or other options.

 

I test drove a c6 a few years back and not a fan. Looking down that long hood and the seating position just wasn't me. The interior was also terrible for a 65k car. I do love the new vettes though..GM did a great job with it

 

Bc a vette has one job and it's stomping a mud hole in 80% of the Mustangs out there.

Took me alot of $$ to run with modded c6 z06 ' s and stock zr1 ' s

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As they should. They destroy most cars out there but wasn't the best driving car I've ever been in.