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Is the procharger worth it?

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#1 ·
I currently have a 2014 Mustang V6 Automatic.

Is it worth installing a procharger or should i trade it in for another 2014 5.0?

I started financing this vehicle 5 months ago, and still owe $16k.

Thoughts?
 
#176 ·
Thank Jonyxz,
I can stop looking for it now.
I once read somewhere that the 3.7 V6 was co-designed by Ford and Mazda as a Mazda race engine well before the coyote was thought of. The article was saying the coyote engine was engineered using the 3.7 design and adding two cylinders.
It also said that Ford had to pay a royalty for each 3.7 they used in the cars and trucks.
((( MAYBE THAT IS WHY THEY ARE DOING AWAY WITH IT)))
The coyote engine is totally FORD.
This was in a Magazine a very long time ago.
I'm wondering now ===?=== is the 3.5 the same basic design as the 3.7 ??????
I don't know but I do know I sure like my 3.7 CYCLONE
Ronnie
 
#200 ·
I believe it was the 3.0L V6 Duratec 220hp engine that Mazda and Ford designed. I had one in my 2004 Mazda 6. It was time bombed due to the cats so close to the headers. The best you could hope for was about 100k miles. The main reason I got rid of the car after 7 years. I had 77k on it. Research it and you'll see what a poor design Mazda and Ford did on the exhaust system that would doom the engine. Thank god for the Cyclone, what a great engine :thumb:
 
#177 ·
Heck... I can't even decide if I should tune and void my warranty lol... I need to do some research and see if there really is a way to tune my car and go back to factory settings and not leave any "foot prints" behind. I am a virgin when it comes to tuning car computers so ya... and as usual, I digress.

A supercharger kit is a big step but it may happen in the future.
I think I'm gonna look into lowering my car first.. simple and easy cheesy lol.
 
#178 ·
If you're still under warranty, I'd just stick with a JMS PedalMax. It gives you a much quicker throttle response so your car actually responds like a sports car. Simple plug and play. Won't violate anything. Get an MPT tune and SCT X4 once your warranty is up.
 
#183 ·
But any body with a V-8 with any type of Boost is gonna smoke U ... Like the old saying goes " Theres no replacement for Displacement . IN the future you could add boost to the Coyote , the V-6 your pretty much done , The Coyote already has a High Performance bottom end & Pistons from the factory so you wont have to worry about it holding up . How stong is that V-6 ? bet it wears out fast
 
#185 ·
True but the Engine not built for boost is more likely to fail than ! that is , Unless maybe if you Drive like a old Lady , Coyote has 425 with out Boost , & is built by Ford to take it, Why beat the Heck out of a 6 & be maxed out , you will get bored with it , Could have 600 - 700 HP or more with boost with the V8 . Civic better be Rocket Poweredl
 
#188 ·
Why in your opinion would the coyote hold boost while the cyclone wouldnt???

Did you actually read all posts in this thread before replying or just posting first thing that comes to your after reading the title?
 
#187 ·
Get bored with 475 lol? I guess the Coyote guys must be bored?. Every Coyote guy loves what they have from the factory and they should, 425 is a wonderful number! 475 is also a wonderful number, hell 305 that my 3.7 has is a wonderful number and even if I don't boost its an unbelievably fun car to drive! You should really upgrade your 06 gt to a 11+ 3.7!

LG G4
 
#204 ·
I think that's one of the biggest misinterpretations in this whole thread. Fast vs fun. "Fun" is very subjective. To some "fast" is fun, to others "fast" is not needed to have fun in their car.
 
#191 ·
I guess a 425 hp v8 is more powerful than a 475 hp v6? :nonono:
 
#192 ·
Hey Dave some people will never get it. I've owned several gt' s throughout the years and have enjoyed them. This time wanted to try something different and I catch all kinda flack from my buds about it. At the end of the day it's all about your choice and hobby interest. When the old 3.7 reaches 200k I'll see what ford has to offer on the lot and go from there. But for today 3.7 it is.

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#195 ·
War Horse,
I sure hope I can make it to the American Muscle all Mustang show in Maple Grove Pa. in August.
If I do I'm calling you out and we are going to race on the drag strip.
If you think my "RED RYDER" is a girls car, you will call him "WONDER WOMAN" after he spanks you.
Don't ever think a car with 305 rated horsepower is a girls car.
Everything is relative. You really need to learn that and my "GIRLS CAR" can teach you a lesson you will never forget.
Ronnie
 
#208 ·
Drop the mic... well said.

I was watching Velocity this morning. They had an old Ferrari on that at the time was the fastest production car in the WORLD. It was a V12 and it's 0-60 was 5.9 seconds. Mine does 5.5 seconds.

My sixxer is plenty fast for my needs.

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#198 ·
Hi bamaboy2014,
He can be on the V-6 section but he should not talk so stupid. I'm guessing he has never been to the drag strip and just takes it for granted that the V8 is always going to be faster.
I seen a few 3.7 V6 Mustangs in the high twelves with no SC or Turbo.
Tires, Driver, are just two of the things that matter along with suspension and some fine tweaking.
The V6 is lighter in the front where it actually counts, The Automatic might not be as much fun for some but it is 100% better at the drag strip. ( I'm talking stock transmission )
There are Turbo V6's going in the 10's and totally streetable with great MPG.
War Horse is welcome but needs to have a little more knowledge of the real world and not his imagination.
Call our 3.7 V6's girls cars, DUH!
Ronnie
 
#202 ·
Thanks Dawg,
I knew I read about it someplace a long time ago.
You sure are 100% correct saying:
[Thank god for the Cyclone, what a great engine/QUOTE]
I really like everything about this 3.7 V6
Ronnie
 
#203 ·
SHO:
Power - 365HP/350TQ
Weight - 4,400LB (roughly)

Mustang:
Power - 305HP/280TQ
Weight - 3,500LB (roughly)

After driving a SHO daily for a year, I can say without question that the power level in that car is plenty for a daily driver. Give me that power in a much lighter chassis with better suspension modification potential, why would I want more? Yes, you will hit a power ceiling before the Coyote, but in the end how many people are really pushing power ceilings, let alone driving the car daily?

When I bought my Cyclone (2015), average prices were as follows:
11-12 Coyote: 20-25K
11-12 Cyclone: 10-15K

I paid 11K for a certified used barebones Cyclone with 3.31 installed. Add on 5-7.5K for a supercharger and labor (assuming I'm lazy and don't install myself). Even with that, I have spent less than I would've for a stock Coyote and hit a power level that is at my theoretical limit for a daily driver.

However once I find a nice 302 powered SN95 convertible (summer cruiser), all bets are off. I'll rebuild the Cyclone with a stroker kit and have the trans rebuilt. Then the madness will really begin.

In the end, it's your money. Build what you want. Be happy with your car. This "sell yours and buy bigger" mentality just seems silly. Every Coyote owner that says something like that to me usually gets a "sell your Coyote and get a GT500" response. I love my car and at the end of the day, I love every second I spent in it.
 
#213 ·
3.7L / 4.0L = about an 8% increase in displacement. Increases in displacement are directly proportional to increases in torque, so +8% torque. Dropping 1 point of compression however is going to lose you about 4% torque.

These motors breathe well, i wouldnt drop the compression at all, i'd keep 10.5 or 11 and take the additional 4-4.5% torque increase on top of the displacement increase.
 
#214 ·
As much as I always am on here like "buy a 5.0"... I see some SCREAMING good deals on 11/12 V6s with lower miles and automatic. Like $12k price range. That's a LOT of room to work with when a similar 5.0 will cost $18-$20k and then you are stock at that point.


I do kick around often looking around for one when my current daily finally dies because gas mileage and price and performance.
 
#216 ·
As much as I always am on here like "buy a 5.0"... I see some SCREAMING good deals on 11/12 V6s with lower miles and automatic. Like $12k price range. That's a LOT of room to work with when a similar 5.0 will cost $18-$20k and then you are stock at that point.

I do kick around often looking around for one when my current daily finally dies because gas mileage and price and performance.
I've been saying that for a year and a half. Primarily because I paid just south of that much for mine then. :lol: They're so cheap that there's no reason not to.